Listen now (32 min) | On 4-Quarter Lives this week Avivah Wittenberg-Cox talks with Catherine Foot, Director of Phoenix Insights. Catherine is a research and policy expert in ageing and longevity, with over 20 years of experience in the field. Phoenix Insights is a think tank set up by the Phoenix Group (one of the UK’s leading pensions and savings groups) in 2021, to conduct research and stimulate debate on how society should respond to the possibilities of longer lives. Its research examines issues of financial security, work, and learning and skills, as well as health and care, homes and communities.